| The many faces of Madhudvisa das |
by IRM
1) Madhudvisa makes it clear he does NOT support Krishnakant (KK) or The Final Order:
| "Personally I want to make it very
clear that I do not support KK's paper or his movement as being
bona fide at all." (Madhudvisa Das, 24th April, 2005) |
2) Madhudvisa makes it clear he DOES support Krishnakant (KK) and The Final Order:
| "My observation is the ritvik
philosophy as presented by KK is quite sound. He points out that
Prabhupada says three times in the July 9th letter that the
disciples will be his disciples and that is a signed legal
document that was mailed to all temples and GBC's under
Prabhupada's instruction WITH Prabhupada's Will. So this is a
very important document. It is quite rare for Prabhupada to send
a letter to all temples and GBC's." (Madhudvisa Das, Letter to Locanananda Das, 12/12/01) |
3) Madhudvisa makes it clear that ritvik is the ONLY authorised system for ISKCON for after Srila Prabhupada's departure:
| "I understand Prabhupada established a
ritvik system to continue to accept disciples after his
departure from our material vision and that is the only
authorized system of initiation in ISKCON." (Madhudvisa Dasa,
24/11/01, Letter to Krishnakant and Others)
"My realization is we have to give Srila
Prabhupada the credit of the great intelligence and judge of
character that we know he had. He established a ritvik system
for continuing the initiations in ISKCON" "Prabhupada could not force his
disciples to accept the ritvik system or follow any of the
instructions he gave them. He gave the instruction... But what
more could he do?" |
4) Madhudvisa makes it clear that ritvik is NOT the only authorised system for ISKCON for after Srila Prabhupada's departure:
| "Here Prabhupada clearly states his
disciples are being trained to be future diksa gurus. They will
act just as he is acting [i.e.: they will act as diksa gurus]" (Madhudvisa
Das, "Krishnakant's Final Order - A Very Misleading Paper")
"Here Srila Prabhupada orders his disciples to become spiritual
master next. Clearly Srila Prabhupada is speaking of the
"spiritual master's succession," he is speaking of himself as
the current spiritual master and is requesting all of his
disciples to "become spiritual master next." Prabhupada is
clearly talking of diksa gurus." (Madhudvisa Das, "Krishnakant's Final Order - A Very Misleading Paper") |
5) Madhudvisa makes it clear that he is not clear WHAT is the authorised system for ISKCON for after Srila Prabhupada's departure - and that Srila Prabhupada "contradicted" himself:
| "Yes, on May 28 there is a
contradictory statement where Prabhupada says the disciples of
the Ritviks will be their disciples not Prabhupada's... So it is
a bit strange..." (Madhudvisa Dasa, Letter to Locanananda Das, 12/12/01) |
6) Madhudvisa makes it clear that we should COMPLETELY FORGET about Srila Prabhupada's instructions on initiation and let ISKCON go to hell:
| "Prabhupada's ISKCON has now ceased to
exist. The organization that now exists has no connection with
Prabhupada at all and it can not be rectified simply by changing
the initiation system. [...]Forget about ISKCON. Let them go to
hell by themselves..." (Madhudvisa Dasa, Letter to Locanananda Das, 12/12/01) |
7) Madhudvisa states that his future diksa gurus should operate as rival missions to that of Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON:
| "There's nothing wrong with qualified
disciples starting their own branches of ISKCON and preaching
and making disciples and initiating them as a diksa guru" (Madhudvisa, "Problems with The Final Order", 1998) |
8) Madhudvisa states that his future diksa gurus may fall down and that this will not cause any harm:
| "Of course they (the new gurus) have to
be qualified, but they will not be successful if they are not
qualified, so what's the harm?" (Madhudvisa, "Problems with The Final Order", 1998) |
9) Madhudvisa initiates himself as sannyasa:
Madhudvisa prabhu was also previously known as Madhudvisa Swami (NOT the ex-GBC sannyasi!) and Mahasringa Swami, having also given himself sannyasa initiation via a picture of Srila Prabhupada.
10) Madhudvisa DE-initiates himself as sannyasa:
However, he later decided that he did not want to be a sannyasi, and reverted back to the name Madhudvisa Das.