Dear Jaya Krishna Dasa,
3 February 2002 - Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila
Prabhupada. Thank you for your letter below. The following is the
official reply to it from the IRM.
Unfortunately as well as not quoting from scripture, you have not
quoted from the IRM either. This has meant, as will be seen, that
most of your criticisms of the IRM are either 'straw-man' arguments
or already answered in previous articles, thus rendering your paper a
futile exercise. Unfortunately re-cycling already answered and
'straw-man' arguments is a technique also used by the GBC when they
write papers attacking us.
Unfortunately you have contradicted yourself here since you have
admitted that this paper of yours is itself an exercise in
disagreeing with the IRM over minor differences. You have stated
that your paper's "sole motive" is to "distinguish, even slightly,
reality from illusion,", and later on you say that for the IRM to be
'mostly parampara' will not 'suffice'.
This point has already been answered here.
In all good faith we had previously invited Kapindra Swami to the
IRM meeting in Alachua, since he had expressed a desire to work
together with us. However we found out later from Brahmabhuta and
Mother Vani who were then traveling with him, that he instructed
them that they were going to this meeting only to steal people for
his PSS and that there is no question of working with the IRM
because they are bogus. That their attending the IRM meeting in a
mood of co-operation was simple a 'front' to get a foot in the door.
Obviously aware of his intentions, we were not about to facilitate
him in his fiendish schemes again when he turned up to the next IRM
meeting in New York.
Firstly we filmed our participation in this year's New York Ratha
Yatra. On the video Adridharana is seen talking to Jayadvaita, but
not with his arm around him. Secondly if it is an offence just to be
talking to these personalities, why did Kapindra Swami speak with
Prithu Das, the infamous ISKCON Guru and virulent anti-ritvik, when
he visited New York?
The IRM is the only body that has given a CORRECT translation of
the words which Srila Prabhupada spoke, that's all. We would like to
see evidence of IRM newsletters actually 'consistently' 'interpreting, minimizing and ignoring'
complaints of poisoning, torture etc. We have noted how Jaya
Krishna's paper is conspicuous by its lack of a single quote from
the IRM newsletters backing up any of his baseless claims. As for
the IRM 'placing more value on their empiric investigations', you
are confused. The IRM is actually being criticised for NOT carrying
out 'empiric investigations'. Also there are many copies of Nityananda's 'Someone Has Poisoned Me' book circulating in Bangalore
temple. Every brahmacarya cannot be expected to instantly recall or
even know of all conversations related to the poison issue.
The IRM actually pointed out how the versions of the tape
containing Adri's presence were incorrect, a fact now accepted by
all sides. In an earlier IRM newsletter we had commented on an
incorrect transcript from some other party. It was not our
The statements of the Kaviraja are relied on by the 'poison
theorists' as evidence for the willful poisoning of Srila
Prabhupada. We simply pointed out that the Kaviraja has later given
a contrary statement which cancels out his earlier statement. So by
the 'poison theorists' own standard of accepting as 'hard evidence'
the statements of those present, their theory is severely
undermined. We simply pointed this out. Also if as you claim that
the 'statements by those present are accepted as hard evidence',
then the whole poison theory is in trouble, because virtually
everyone who was present - Bhakti Caru, Tamala Krishna etc. - are
giving other statements which minimize what they said at the time.
These testimonies a Judge and Jury will also take into account. If
one gives credence to what they said at the time, one cannot
simultaneously discredit everything else they say. No court will
accept such selective testimony. One cannot pick and choose what
they wish to accept from a 'witness'. This is the danger of relying
on the statements of anyone other than Srila Prabhupada.
Why doesn't the supposedly well-established PSS initiate a murder
trial? Why this weakness of heart from them? Who are they trying to
protect? Indeed Kapindra Swami's only contribution to the 'poison
campaign' has been to dis-associate himself from Mukunda Das, the
only member of the PSS that was speaking out about the poison issue.
The CHAKRA web-site is not linked to the IRM web-site. We have
merely given the addresses of some CHAKRA arguments which should be
rebutted in order to advance the poison theory, and the 'poison
theorists' have taken our advice and began rebutting these articles.