Attack ISKCON Revival Movement (IRM)
Ever since 1997, when the website
“Vaisnava News Network” (VNN) first carried allegations that Srila
had been deliberately administered fatal levels of the poison arsenic
of his senior disciples, the issue has become increasingly
divisive. The first book written on the
subject, Someone Has Poisoned Me (1999), increased the vitriol
finger-pointing whilst offering little in the way of real, hard
evidence. Even its title was unfairly
taken out of
context - it was never the unequivocal statement of fact by Srila
that it tried to imply. A second book
called Judge for Yourself (Bhaktivedanta Investigation Force,
appeared to add little in the way of new evidence pertinent to proving
Whilst co-operating with investigations
into the circumstances surrounding Srila Prabhupada’s departure, with
ISKCON Revival Movement (IRM)’s member Adridharana Das having answered
questions from various parties as to his recollection of events
Srila Prabhupada’s final days, in the main the IRM has decided to
its efforts on re-instating Srila Prabhupada as the sole initiating
ISKCON. The IRM sees this as both more
urgent and easily proven through signed documentation.
The IRM believes that resolving this issue
will both revive ISKCON and drive out the ersatz Gurus who are
ISKCON a laughing stock. The poison
issue has yet to yield any hard evidence, and could only:
best remove less than a handful of Gurus from their positions (those
allegedly involved as accessories to the crime, with the chief suspect
Krishna Goswami having already died), leaving the vast majority to
their unauthorized practices.
proven at the risk of disturbing Srila Prabhupada’s Samadhi (sacred
burial place) to carry out an autopsy.
An act most of his disciples would find completely
There are devotees involved in the
investigation into this alleged crime who are sympathetic to the IRM’s
position, though as we shall now learn this sense of tolerance is
Recently, the BIF (Bhaktivedanta
Investigation Force), composed of members Mandapa Das, Jitarati Das,
Das, Syamasundara Das and Sakshi Gopal Das, wrote a response to an
produced by Krishnakant (KK), the editor of Back To Prabhupada
(BTP). This analysis by KK dealt with
two aspects of the poison theory (arsenic levels in a hair sample and
on a tape) and made the following 3 basic points:
arsenic contamination of hair below 3ppm (parts per million) is
considered safe by experts in the field of toxicology.
the book, Judge For Yourself (JFY), written by BIF on the
poisoning allegation, did not present a single reference from an expert
field of toxicology stating that an arsenic level of 2.6ppm in hair is
fatally toxic. (2.6ppm is the level of
arsenic which was
found in a strand of hair purportedly belonging to Srila Prabhupada).
allegedly incriminating “whispers” caught on tape regarding
poisoning can only be brought into play as supporting evidence once the
allegation of death by way of arsenic poisoning has first been
There is a
well-known debating technique,
used by desperate people who are cornered and unable to reply to a line
argument, called ‘argumentum ad hominem’. This
is where instead of tackling the arguments themselves, one
instead attacks the person presenting them.
Of course, even if such personal attacks were justified,
necessarily have any bearing on the validity of the arguments presented
– for even
if a drunk, debauched, low-life, mass-murdering criminal states that
God, it would still be the truth regardless of the fact that the person
this truth is of a very low character. In
fact, engaging in such character assassination is itself an admission
since it is a classic logical fallacy betraying intellectual bankruptcy
regarding the issue at hand. If one is
correct, why not just rebut the arguments themselves, rather than
engage in the
diversionary and wholly irrelevant act of character assassination on
presenting the argument?
I will now demonstrate that BIF is guilty
of precisely the above logical fallacy. Below
I reproduce a large percentage of BIF’s reply to KK. We
will see that most of it is spent not in
addressing the 3 points made above, but in attacking KK as a person. These attacks include the absurd allegation
KK is a paid employee of the GBC. It
attacks the IRM (ISKCON Revival Movement) along with KK’s role in it;
out at Back To Prabhupada magazine, and if all that were not
good measure throws in an attack on Adridharana Das too (another member
What is ironic is that this analysis by KK
that got BIF so hot under the collar was only originally sent privately
individual in response to some questions he asked.
BIF have somehow managed to get their hands on this
exchange and used it as an excuse to declare a very public campaign
IRM, whose sole aim, let us be reminded, is to restore Srila Prabhupada
rightful position as ISKCON’s initiating Guru.
One therefore wonders what BIF’s real agenda is?
not be bothering to
respond to every single one of the scurrilous slanders in BIF’s
release, since to do so would simply play into the very diversionary
have so clumsily tried to set. And in
any case, BIF provide no evidence to substantiate their wildly
incorrect allegations, and hence there is no case to answer. I shall give a few examples proving that
BIF’s accusations are either outright lies, or wholly irrelevant, and
often both. As mentioned, in logic even
if all the allegations were true, it would still not change the fact
that the 3
points made in KK’s analysis would remain undefeated.
All quotes from the BIF reply shall be identified in
all other words shall be my comments on BIF’s allegations.
|A Tirade of Personal Attacks
|A) Attacks on KK’s Character
we explained to KK in
previous correspondence - even if we
present videos of the crime in motion he would not accept it simply on
the basis that he did not produce/direct it. Nothing, other than KK’s
own cit takes precedence in his headspace. This malady has now
to his breakdown in saddhana. He does not show up for temple programs,
often seen wobbling along with short pants, thongs, a three day
a filthy bead bag and mumbled mantras. How can this blasé
access to sensitive spiritual matters, or warrant the doya of Sri Sri
Radha Krishnacandra, or advance the understanding of a
with a myriad of primary defects?” […] As reported earlier, Krishna
Kant, CEO of
the IRM multi-conglomerate is rarely seen on the premises, or
only shows up
occasionally, looking like a pickpocket.”
Of course the fact that KK lives nowhere
near a temple is not mentioned by BIF in their desperation to smear
this being the case it would be rather difficult to even make such
what has KK done to investigate further? NOTHING. Instead, this
sits at his PC and criticizes everyone and anyone who is not
by his cawing. […] But not one of these mavericks informed law
enforcement, or initiated pathological tests.”
The person whom BIF entrusted to circulate
this nasty response, PADA or Puranjana Das, has also done nothing
way of initiating pathological tests etc. Yet
he is not criticized for this, but rather used by BIF to
circulate their lies and smears.
the court made
assessment of the evidence/deponents/affidavits, but KK is already
around inside Madhusudana’s stomach like a blind maggot.
investigations demand trained personnel with professional expertise. It
is not a field for cocooned analyst who use murder as a
football**, or exhumation as fear to endorse their GBC-pada "position
"We attempted to zapp this
information to Mr. KK in the past, but there was a cranium penetration
problem, and we don’t stock jackhammers.”
"Actually - no one is qualified re.
"arsenic levels" except Kaw Kaw and his GBC superiors. So we
have already asked this pop-top-purusa to give us the names of
his NAA Gurus.
If he doesn’t have one, we are prepared to talk with his phychiatrist
we can work up to his levels of "homicidal implications".
"Which does not present any
contradiction to what is already stated. But here he is again, saying-
"2.6 aint adding up to 3". What he needs to understand is that
case ADD equals Attention Deficit Disorder. There is nothing we can do
"But we have no doubt why KK says
what he says. Pagale kina bale, chagale kina khaya-
A madman can say anything, just like a goat can eat
anything. Even if we could persuade a
goat to renounce Mars bars, we could never bestow sanity on a lunatic.”
"To this point in KK’s political
career- he has “lost” the case against the GBC; has made the
of Srila Prabhupada’s ritvik dictate practically impossible;
schisms within Srila Prabhupada’s family and within ISKCON at large;
convinced devotees to join him and then left them exposed for
bosses; has not reformed or revived any aspect of ISKCON, but rather,
has created only division and chaos. KK’s IRM web site Front Page is an
dedicated to his inflated ego, and is adorned with the scalps
of devotees he
"defeated" in debate.”
Conversely we are expected to believe that
BIF launching an endless campaign that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned by
members of the GBC has not created any schisms, division or chaos in
but only unity, peace and harmony! It’s
amazing how when one is so desperate to find fault, one will literally
say anything, without even thinking!
B) Attacks on KK by
claming he is a GBC
he ever discussed directly
with any authority other than his GBC bosses, and the pixies down the
end of the garden?"
where did he get the idea that
giving the crime a medical stamp of approval, legalised it? We are glad
you asked. Here is
KK’s long time secret benefactor; the (late)
in the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada - Tamal Krishna (NTIP 146p):
-"Some have suggested that even if no one intentionally
Prabhupada, the medicine he was given acted as poison."
So what about this KK bird - is he swallowing GBC worms or what?"
"It becomes obvious that KK is here
banging his head on behalf of the GBC. What would be his interest
otherwise? He has not cawed about this issue in years. As soon
as we initiate
legal action, up he flies like a GBC-fed-jackdaw. Nonetheless, he
doesn’t have a clue re. endogenous/ exogenous contamination. He shows
inkling of NAA procedures in application."
analysis by KK was actually done on
10/10/2004. Legal action was not initiated
and announced until almost 2 months later on November 25th.
Hence the analysis could not have been
generated in response to BIF initiating legal action as claimed.
now decides that Dr. Callery’s
attestation of Dr. Morris’ findings is irrelevant because ... multiple
choice: 1) GBC raised the anti to four chapattis. 2) Misses
Tamal. 3) Discovered that Mars bars come
Venus. 4) Talks nonsense when necessary."
"We have suggested to KK in past
correspondence that he quit raving like a GBC butt-kisser and produce
one expert who will in any way challenge the statement of Dr.
Morris, the affirmation
of Dr. Callery, or the facts presented in JFY."
"Now this KK sucker, verbally
defecates in an attempt to slip the noose and take the GBC cabal with
"Waiting, waiting, waiting. Waiting
is now KK’s dharma. Waiting for the GBC to
become ritvik; waiting
for the court to convict the GBC bomb-blasting terrorists;
donations; waiting for JPS to stop running; waiting for Adri to stop
running; waiting for the GBC’s "incest promo" to be made law;
waiting for the courts to indict the GBC for making false rape charges
those years ago; waiting for the "mass GBC fraud uncovered by
IRM" to cover itself again; Waiting,
waiting, waiting, and KK is doing all this as a great spiritual
the IRM cause Wow. The
question is- Is KK a GBC mole or an IRM
martyr? Either way, his GBC
affiliation and "failed mission" is now public knowledge.”
This peculiarly disorientated fixation on
KK, (who has never had or ever supported any bogus ISKCON Gurus, nor
an ISKCON temple under the bogus Guru regime, but has instead helped
court case against the GBC and write 150 papers defeating them along
newsletters and issues of BTP magazine exposing them), as being a big
of the GBC is comprehensible only when the history of BIF is known. The fact is that the above mentioned members
of BIF, until not too long ago, were all merrily supporting and
bogus Guru regime. Their illusion was
ironically only broken by reading KK’s The Final Order (TFO). Jitarati and Kamsahanta in particular have a
long history of financing and supporting Tamal Krishna Goswami. One member of BIF, Sakshi Gopal Das,
the following in a letter he wrote to the IRM addressed to
"Had I not visited Sri Sri Radha Govinda mandir (Calcutta
in the mid-nineties, I would probably still be in the ISKCON thana
was only after you sat me down and gave me the source on Bhavananda,
and the others that my eyes were truly opened. So there is much to
to IRM from Sakshi Gopal Das, 28/12/2000)
Note – Bhavananda was one of Sakshi
Gopal’s previous Gurus.
It appears that a defense mechanism is in
play here. One senses BIF members are
trying to deal with their very real and recent support for and
the bogus GBC, by projecting all that guilt onto the IRM’s innocent
Krishnakant, who had nothing to do with the bogus Gurus, much less give
millions of dollars. At one point as
part of that defense mechanism, Kamsahanta, backed by other BIF
on a global campaign falsely claiming he had co-authored The Final
Order. This was easily disproven
and so a new line of attack has emerged. We
now have the absurd “KK is a loyal GBC man” allegation.
According to BIF’s reasoning, the GBC must
be backing the printing and distribution of Back To Prabhupada
is such a loyal man. Yet the GBC have
not seemed too keen on the publication to date, indeed it is banned
ISKCON temple in the world. If BIF were
correct, one wonders why it is only on IRM members that the GBC carry
orchestrated attacks, beatings and expulsions, not the five members of
BIF. I leave it for the reader to judge
the credibility of this new line of attack by BIF against KK and the
and we are quite content to
have KK sit on his backside while others corroborate the evidence. Why?
Because we know that with all the evidence provided him by senior
His Divine Grace, he still managed to slam the Guru issue into a wall.
process, he also lost Kolkata Mandir, the Gurusaday property, Adri’s
position as TP and initiated Adri’s on-the-lam lila. Because of
wonderful preaching being done, Krishna saved Bangalore Temple from the
GBC, otherwise KK had set it up just like Kolkata, for GBC
possession. We also
know that KK’s caw caw helped to win him support, using which, he
exhausted support for the “reformation” as a movement. Many
temples/devotees abandoned the reform movement because of his GBC
leanings, e.g.- "IRM members are not to propagate any
literature or messages
to the effect that Srila Prabhupada was deliberately poisoned. Rather
they are instructed
... (Nov 15th ‘99). We also know that Srila Prabhupada, in four years,
established fifty-five temples and made four thousand devotees.
New York temple, which he has boasted about for the last four years
("Hare Krishna Explosion begins in New York as IRM temple
opens" 6/17/00), is a hired property that has made one devotee, if
And we could find no evidence, not even a designated office, which
confirms Sri Sri Radha Krsnachandra Mandir Bangalore, to be "IRM Head
"Attention junkies are shameless. By
pasting a few quotes from off the internet that don’t in anyway
contradict expert opinion, KK attempts to debunk accredited
establish himself as superior. Never mind that this acarya was whipped
into submission by his GBC bosses, he still touts himself a
front-runner in the intellectual stakes. His convolutions have been
divinely tagged by the contradiction -
Krishna Kant ...... when we all know that Krishna can.
can, but wont, because of Krishna Kant. And that’s the IRM
story in a
"Why, doesn”t KK tell us why? Why
make insinuations where facts are necessary? But then again, KK has a
well established reputation for saying anything that helps him
through the night.
Here are some examples: (IRM Newsletter headlines). GBC funded
ritvik is "spiritual" (9/11/00) ... Oh yeah? GBC teaches that
"Living Gurus" not required (6/30/00) ... Really? GBC
promotes incest (9/2/00) ... Give us a break, KK. GBC declare all out
... Yep, eleven aksauhinis were deployed, so KK took the offer.
admits he is on the run (9/29/00) ... then Adri stole his running
GBC fails in second expulsion attempt (2/29/00) ... but they
on the third. IRM expands into
Australia (12/19/00) ... they are now competing with Tasmanian
for incest rights granted by the GBC. IRM releases its first brahmastra
(2/19/01)... turned out to be a boomerang thrown by a Tasmanian Tiger.
Poison theorist finally agree with IRM (7/4/01) ... Sure. We all sat
down and munched on KK’s favourite snack ... arsenic-laced Mars bars.
granted prime Kumbha Mela site (12/19/00) ... and as a thank you, they
left behind USD 8,000 in unpaid debts. Massive GBC fraud uncovered
(7/4/01)... so Adri started running. Massive bomb blast reveals
GBC terrorist campaign
10/22/01) ... massive sensationalism reveals hack IRM journalist. The
admits its Gurus are unauthorised (12/12/02) ... so the GBC and IRM
down and munched on KK’s favourite snack ... arsenic laced Mars bars..
IRM expands into Russia (5/9/03) ... and are still
iron curtain for KK. We will stop here. If readers feel sick reading
stuff, please spare us a thought.”
In the last section we saw BIF concocting
out of their imagination the absurd allegation that KK is actually the
supporter of the GBC! Above however, we
see clear evidence of BIF actually defending the GBC.
For instance, BIF finds it unfair that we accused the GBC
promoting incest in one of the IRM newsletters:
> "GBC promotes incest (9/2/00) ...
Give us a break, KK"
Yet in this newsletter we were simply
repeating Srila Prabhupada stating that a Guru having sex with his
akin to an act of incest:
from moral point of view, a disciple is just like daughter. And this
having sex life with his disciple. And he’s a yogi. Just see. Even he
has no moral sense, apart from spiritual knowledge. According to human social
constitution, one should not have sex life with daughter, with mother
sister. And what is this? If one has sex life with daughter, then where
Prabhupada, Room Conversation, May 31st, 1974)
And we had correctly reported in the
newsletter that one such Guru who had had sex with his disciple, Rohini
Das, had been sanctioned by the GBC to continue acting as Guru to his
disciples. So a Guru commits incest with his disciple, the GBC respond
saying that he continue acting as the “good as God” Guru to his
BIF thinks we are being too hard on the GBC.
Hence, out of desperation to find anything
at all to say against the IRM we see BIF adopting a defensive posture
of the GBC and hence in favour of such deviancy. In
trying to discredit the IRM’s newsletters,
which are all simply attacking
the GBC, we see BIF and the GBC have something very strong in common –
both think our attacks on the GBC are unfair. However, what makes this
BIF even more hypocritical and desperate is the fact that one of the
BIF, Sakshi Gopal Das, previously had the following to say about the
newsletters he and his colleagues are now attacking:
“Thank you for your
IRM newsletters, we enjoy
it very much and must confess; the material is unique in content. What
newsletters say is that the IRM is not just outside ISKCON but inside
from Sakshi Gopal Das to IRM, 28/12/2000)
Note this letter was written AFTER
the majority of the newsletters which BIF attacks above were written.
it is clear we are dealing with a
group which will say anything at any time simply to serve their
do we see this scavenger
active in such a field. He should stick to eavesdropping on pamho,
hiding under beds, and peeping through keyholes for his BTKK
material. […] He
is now involved with publishing a propaganda magazine that is going
nowhere except to exhibit his "knowledge", which he equates
to power, which in turn assures his upkeep.
He once told a devotee in Canada that he could argue any
the "Guru issue" and still win, which exposes him as a
self-centered egotist with a superiority complex.
Bearing all this in mind, we request devotees to carve
the influence of this grub, by immediately deleting his emails
distribution. We also strongly request
who are taken in by this twister, to pull the plug on his support
system; remove/replace him with a view to his spiritual
to insulate Vaisnavism from his sick sensationalism. […] Please
our consciousness with any more emails or boring magazines from this
|E) Attacks on Adridharana Das
for the Kumbha Mela
eight-grand-debt to liquidate itself before Adri’s vacation to the
Here BIF mockingly refers to their hope
that “Adri” will be jailed as a “vacation”.
“big-house in Allipore” is the Calcutta Central Jail.
Not nice at all.
from all this we know that BIF alleges
that KK is a:
Thong-wearing, grubby pick-pocket-looking,
gum-bum Guru, blind maggot, cocooned analyst, madman, lunatic,
self-centered egotist with a superiority complex, scavenger,
twister, sick sensationalist,
sicko, verbally defecating GBC butt-kissing sucker, GBC-fed
Jackdaw bird, GBC-whipped
attention junkie, with an inflated ego, has a cranium penetration
problem, with attention deficit disorder, talks to pixies in
the garden, and has TKG
as his long-time secret benefactor!
Phew! According to BIF we
are obviously dealing with a contender for the
most vile and sickest individual of the millennium!
However, none of this addresses the 3
points regarding the poison issue originally made by KK. Rather, such a
long-winded attack merely confirms that BIF have no response to the 3
The above constitutes the majority of BIF’s
reply, the remainder of which also failed to deal directly with the 3
but was at least free from personal attacks. We
will deal now with these remaining points made by BIF.
Irrelevant and False Points
‘KK and Adri Heard Poison
SRILA PRABHUPADA SAID that
he was poisoned. In the absence of audio recording (a large number of
tapes were missing/ removed after Srila Prabhupada’s passing),
we must accept
the evidence of perceptive witnesses:"
This is a startling confession made by
BIF. BIF here confirms there are NO
audio recordings of Srila Prabhupada stating he was poisoned, just as
has been saying all along, and therefore, claims BIF, we must instead
solely on the statements of “perceptive witnesses” – which is basically
like Bhakti Caru Swami and Tamala Krishna.
Hence, according to BIF the case for Srila Prabhupada
poisoned is not based on any evidence coming from Srila Prabhupada, but
on the words of the alleged murderers themselves, who are now
upgraded by BIF to being “perceptive witnesses”.
"we must accept the evidence of
perceptive witnesses: those who were there and heard His Divine Grace
SAY that he WAS POISONED. Here, again, is the evidence as per
of 1st hand witnesses:"
BIF then proceeds to give a list of the names
and “documented statements” of these “1ST hand witnesses”
there”. Nestled in this list of 10
which includes the Ayur-vedic doctor who treated Srila Prabhupada,
Krishna and Bhakti Caru, are the names KK and Adridharana listed as
nos 8 and 9! So now KK, as well as
being all those horrible nasty things I quoted earlier – “madman”,
etc. – is also supposedly a “1ST hand witness” who “was
there”! So in 1977, at the age of 10,
little KK is
supposed to have left London for Vrindavana, heard Srila Prabhupada
was poisoned, and then hopped back to London again without anyone
seeing him! Or maybe he took help from
those pixies at
the bottom of the garden he is supposed to talk to regularly! Indeed, KK is quoted as saying:
"It seems from this that: Srila
Prabhupada had been taking arsenic, either via the Makara-dhvaja or
other medicine; and that the doctors stated this arsenic
administered via medicine was acting as poison."
However, BIF deliberately conceals that
the above statement by KK is made specifically in response to the
quote from Bhakti Caru Swami:
good. When Dr. Ghosh came,
that other Dr. Ghosh came... (Hindi) .pressure, 180 and 80. (Hindi)
that in this condition, Prabhupada can’t take makara-dhvaja. That any
that contains mercury and arsenic is poison to him.”
(Room Conversation, 28/10/77)
So KK commenting on Bhakti Caru commenting
on Dr Ghosh's medical opinion, suddenly becomes elevated to KK being
the room with Srila Prabhupada commenting on what he heard Srila
to him as a “1st hand witness”!
Such an egregious example of deceit is just amazing!
Also Adridharana is quoted as saying:
"He told me that Srila Prabhupada
was referring to the fact that the medicines he had been given were
So here Adridharana is referring to what
the Kaviraja told him – that’s the “HE” in the sentence above. So once again, Adridharana reporting what
the Kaviraja told him is elevated to Adridharana stating that he heard,
hand, Srila Prabhupada tell him he was being poisoned.
The above allegations regarding KK and
Adridharana were made *3* times in BIF’s reply.
BIF obviously thought it was onto a winner
with the “KK was in the room with Srila Prabhupada” allegation. Deceit such as this can only make the
discerning reader seriously question if anything BIF says can be taken
The Whispers, and Blasphemy of
The whispers were
CORROBORATIVE evidence in an ongoing investigation, and are now
in a submitted Writ.”
But WHAT is it the whispers are
corroborating? There has to be
SOMETHING to corroborate. So you would
FIRST need EVIDENCE that death by poisoning actually took place, which
“whispers” could then support/back-up/corroborate/supplement. If the poisoning itself did not take place,
the whispers supposedly saying it did, become irrelevant.
This is an obvious point. (And
we have seen, and will see, BIF has
yet to produce evidence for “death by poisoning”).
Hence BIF here essentially agrees with our point that the
whispers in and of themselves do not prove anything.
first KK implies that Srila
Prabhupada imagined the whispers, and that audio forensic analysts -
Jack Mitchell, Dr. H. McCaffery and Tom Owens are idiots.”
This is just another fictitious
allegation. As we saw from the point
above, KK had merely stated that the whispers on their own do not prove
anything, something which BIF essentially agrees with.
This simple statement which BIF agrees with
has now been elevated to claiming that KK implied that Srila Prabhupada
imagined the whispers, and that audio forensic analysts are idiots.
even remotely resembling this was ever said.
More blatant deceit from BIF.
"Why have lawyers annexed the
whispers as evidence in a Writ? And why
have two High Court judges accepted the Writ without dismissal?"
Yet BIF do not mention that this Writ
which they have managed to get two high court judges to accept without
dismissal contains the following blasphemous attack on Srila Prabhupada:
Srila Prabhupada did not devise any procedure to protect the long-term
of ISKCON from any predatory take over, prompted by selfish motives.”
High Court Writ Filed By BIF)
basically states that Srila Prabhupada was so amiss in his
stewardship of ISKCON that “unfortunately” he did not devise ANY
protect his beloved ISKCON. Is this a
statement that BIF should be boasting they managed to get two high
to accept without dismissal – that they have put it on LEGAL RECORD the
implication that Srila Prabhupada did not know what he was doing and
know how to run ISKCON? Which is the
same argument sometimes used by the GBC to try and explain away some of
Prabhupada’s signed documents like the July 9th 1977
his Last Will and Testament.
many fatal poisonings has KK
investigated, even in his wildest imaginings? How many NAA forensic
investigators has he consulted to qualify him make such a
statement? Can we get
even one name from this cawing wriggler? Which NA analyst gave him the
"trigger point level" he refers to?”
An Neutron Activiation Analyst (NAA) is someone who measures the level
arsenic in hair. Whether or not that level is TOXIC to the human body
determined not by an NAA whose expertise lies rightly in the mechanics
MEASUREMENT, but by pathologists, medical practitioners and
The trigger point level of 3ppm (3 parts per million) which KK refers
which BIF is challenging, was supplied to KK by none other than BIF
Sakshi Gopal! The following is a
quotation supplied by BIF:
Levels: Hair/Nails - 3 ppm
Poisoning, 108 p.
Humana Press, US).
(From an E-mail Sent
Gopal Das to KK in 2002)
Hence KK’s “trigger point” for the
detection of arsenic in hair was simply repeating information provided
themselves – a trigger point which BIF itself is now challenging!
"Unlike KK, who quotes
"toxicological literature" from 1965, when NAA was unheard of, the
JFY report was based on state-of-the-art techniques, with a
view to securing
depositions necessary for both law enforcement and judiciary.”
analysis actually gave 4 quotes, including the one from 1965 referred
and they all say the same thing – which is that anything up to 3ppm of
in hair is NOT toxic i.e. SAFE. 2 of these quotes were supplied to KK
themselves, and it is interesting that BIF ONLY mentions one of the 4
but not the 2 quotes they supplied him which KK also quotes, and BIF
conveniently forget to mention that all 4 quotes say the SAME thing. Thus the fact that one of KK’s is from 1965
is irrelevant. The four quotes offered
by KK are given below, with the first two being the one’s supplied to
KK by BIF
Hair/Nails - 3 ppm
Poisoning, 108 p. Humana Press, US).
Minimum Risk Level of 0. 005 mg/kg/day
has been derived for acute-duration (14 days or less) oral exposure to
Minimum Risk Level of 0. 0003
mg/kg/day (3ppm) has been derived for chronic-duration (365 days or
exposure to arsenic.
Profile Levels Used by Pathologists,
rumor that has gripped French historical circles is that the British
poisoned l”Empereur while he was in exile in Saint Helena, where he
died on May
5, 1821, at the age of 51. But the magazine Science et Vie (Science and
studied 19 hairs taken from Napoleon in 1805, 1814 - before he went
- and in 1821. All of the samples contain massive doses of arsenic,
from 15 to 100 parts per million (ppm), it reported on Monday. On
human hair contains only 0.8 ppm of arsenic, and the maximum
considered safe is three ppm."
Association of French Pathologists, 28/10/2002)
et al. 449 examined hair in
arsenic poisoning cases and found a wide range of concentrations,
H., P. R. Hodge, and C. S.
Crisp. “Arsenic in hair and nails. Its significance in acute arsenic
Journal Forensic Med. 12:52-67, 1965)
fact that there are now better methods for
measuring the level or arsenic in hair does not in any way change what
are actually considered toxic. Unless
the human body has suddenly, since 1965, developed new levels of
arsenic poisoning, the same level of arsenic will kill someone today
just as it
allegedly killed Napoleon 200 years ago.
Hence yet another reason why the fact that the quote
from 1965 is irrelevant, and again more deceit from BIF.
whereas KK’s analysis contained 4 expert opinions regarding toxic
arsenic in human hair, all of which said that anything up to 3ppm is
i.e. SAFE, JFY (the book on the poisoning allegation written by BIF) as
noted in his original 3 points, provided NO expert quotes regarding
levels of arsenic as measured in human hair, even though they had two
quotes at hand. But putting these
quotes in their JFY book would have destroyed their whole case, since
reader would have followed the advice to “Judge For Yourself”, and
the 2.6ppm arsenic concentration found in Srila Prabhupada’s hair was
Normal and Abnormal Arsenic
for ABNORMAL levels vis-a-vis
TOXIC levels: what are ABNORMAL levels if not abnormal TOXIC
levels? ABNORMAL = above normal,
ranging from chronic to unlimited. All of which is TOXIC”. […]So, Dr.
Morris was right - Srila Prabhupada was
twenty times higher than normal.”
If Srila Prabhupada’s arsenic hair level
of 2.6ppm was 20 times higher than normal it means that a normal level
2.6/20 ppm or 0.13ppm, which means anything above this is abnormal. And BIF claims here that anything which is
abnormal or above 0.13ppm is toxic. But
as we have seen from the expert quotes provided above, two of which are
BIF themselves, only something above 3ppm is toxic.
That is, BIF now claims that toxic levels are actually
times below what their own expert quotes say.
Dr Callery’s Statement
The following statement made Dr Callery,
who is a medical examiner, was repeatedly used by BIF as some sort of
that the arsenic in Srila Prabhupada’s hair was fatally toxic:
my opinion, to a reasonable
degree of medical certainty, that this individual, (Srila Prabhupada)
history of multiple myocardial infarcts and non insulin dependent
mellitus and considering his age would be an individual in frail health
which a chronic administration or exposure of arsenic leading to toxic
would be expected to be a significant contributing condition to his
Here Dr Callery simply states that a
chronic administration of arsenic leading to toxic levels would be
contribute to Srila Prabhupada’s death.
He does NOT state:
2.6ppm IS such a toxic level
b) The level found in Srila
Prabhupada’s hair was a toxic level which DID lead to his death.
Indeed, he states nothing at all about
what constitutes a toxic level, only that “toxic levels would be
expected to be
a significant contributing condition to his death”.
Surely this is a common sense point.
someone is ill, then giving him toxic levels of arsenic would
contribute further to his death. But
what is that level, and was it found in the hair? This
lack of precision as to exactly what level of arsenic would
cause certain death, and whether that level was present, is the crux of
issue regarding the hair sample. Yet
BIF ineptly miss the point entirely.
If Dr Callery actually meant to say that
2.6ppm of arsenic in hair was a fatally toxic level, as BIF claim, then
can”t BIF simply get him to explicitly state that 2.6pmm is fatally
that the level of arsenic found in Srila Prabhupada WAS toxic, rather
present a general common sense statement such as he does?
Also, why cut Dr. Callery’s statement in
half in mid-sentence? Why can’t we see the whole context of his
statement? Why does he not state what BIF
claiming? This was what KK recommended
to BIF 3 years ago when he was asked by BIF to review their JFY book –
get a statement from Dr. Callery stating what they are actually
claiming if the
book is to have any credibility.
Especially since Dr. Callery is the only person quoted in
who is even qualified to speak about toxic levels in human hair. Yet 3
we are still waiting for such a statement from Dr. Callery or any
expert in the
field. BIF would do well to procure such an expert opinion, otherwise
claims, like their attacks on KK, will remain hollow and
then approached Dr. Dipankar
Chakraborti, an expert in arsenic toxic levels, who, when told of the
findings, declared- "2.6ppm! He will be finished...He will be
finished! So who is KK’s authority? We would like very much to interview him/her
and validate KK’s "trigger level" vis-a-vis the case in point."
a) The FULL exchange with Dr Chakraborti, taken
from BIF’s book JFY, actually goes as follows:
your accepted levels of arsenic?
microgram solutions (?).
|| How much is it in ppm?
It’s 0. 01 ppm. (Note: This concurs
with Dr. Mazumder (Dept of Sanitary Engineering. Govt of Bengal), min 0. 01- 0. 05)
me...quickly, how can someone living in Mayapur, come up with 2. 6ppm?
Oh, he will be...he will be finished!
finished? Red Alert?
Chakribarti does not refer to the
level of arsenic in HUMAN HAIR, but the level or arsenic in WATER – two
completely different propositions. This
is proven by the fact that he states that they measure accepted levels
arsenic in microgram SOLUTIONS, which means parts per million of
water. So the 2.6ppm which the good
Doctor refers to is not the arsenic found in Srila Prabhupada’s hair,
level found in WATER which would “finish” someone who was exposed to
water. Thus, the toxic level of arsenic
in water is elevated to being relevant to the level found in a strand
hair. Again, more blatant deceit.
And I have already noted that the “authority” who supplied KK his
level” was none other than BIF themselves.
Hence I give BIF full permission, therefore, to interview
"The measurement of arsenic in
water, air, or arsenic levels in general, is for the purpose of
chronic/acute levels relevant to the human body.”
to and acknowledges the
fact, as pointed out by KK, that NONE of the quotes regarding arsenic
their JFY book give an expert opinion stating what constitutes toxic
arsenic in HUMAN HAIR. Why instead of
giving us measurements of arsenic in “water, air or arsenic levels in
can’t BIF simply give us what is actually relevant to the matter in
hand – an
expert opinion on toxic levels of arsenic in human hair?
book-JFY, has been
referenced so that hard-nuts can contact quoted sources for further
There would be no need to contact sources
for “further explanation/confirmation”, if the sources simply stated
2.6ppm was a fatally toxic level of arsenic in human hair to begin with. But they don’t, hence the validity of point
2) made in KK’s analysis, which was stated at the beginning of this
“2) That the book, Judge For Yourself
(JFY), written by BIF on the poisoning allegation, did not present a
reference from an expert in the field of toxicology stating that an
level of 2.6ppm in hair is fatally toxic.”
KK’s analysis made 3 basic points:
arsenic contamination of hair below 3ppm (parts per million) is
considered safe by the field of toxicology.
the book, Judge For Yourself (JFY), written by BIF on the
allegation, did not present a single reference from an expert in the
toxicology stating that an arsenic level of 2.6ppm in hair is fatally
“whispers” caught on tape regarding poisoning can only be brought into
play as supporting evidence once the central allegation of death by way
arsenic poisoning has first been established.
We have seen that there is nothing in
BIF’s response that even attempts to challenge these points. Rather, BIF’s reply consists entirely of the
vast majority is nothing but a vicious and wild rambling attack on
KK, Adridharana, the IRM and BTP. None
of which is either true or relevant to challenging the 3 points KK made.
statements simply confirming KK’s 3 points.
other statements which are proven to be outright lies and deceits.
Virtually every sentence of BIF’s reply
falls into one of the above 3 categories.
No doubt you will come across more ranting
and raving from BIF in the future, trying to convince you how KK is
a cross between Hitler and Mussolini, and the IRM is the modern
the Third Reich! I advise that when
plowing through their next outpouring, which on past evidence will be
more than hot air, one should check to see if the 3 original points
poison issue which KK made, and which BIF have been demonstrably unable
respond to, are in any way addressed.
Clearly you can ‘Judge For Yourself’ – as BIF would say! -
not BIF’s reply here has answered the 3 points made by KK, or simply
a vicious character assassination based on lies to avoid answering the
made. I predict more of the same from