15TH NOVEMBER 1999 Welcome to the
8th edition of our newsletter. We have had many favourable replies
to the last newsletter wherein we launched the formation of an
organised worldwide movement that will work for the rectification
and revival of ISKCON. One of the resolutions that was passed at the
Malaysia meetings was as follows:
"IRM members are not to propagate any literature or
messages to the effect that Srila Prabhupada was deliberately
poisoned. Rather they are instructed to at least wait until the
outcome of the official investigation on this subject. Our position
is that there is not enough evidence present currently on which to
form any conclusions, and therefore we shall reserve judgement until
concrete evidence comes to light. However members are encouraged to
participate in any neutral investigation of this issue, that will
help uncover the full truth of the matter. In order to clarify this,
a paper on the subject will be released shortly." The following
is the paper referred to above, and which was presented in a draft
form at the Malaysia meetings of October 24th-25th. We hope this
will make it clear why the above resolution was passed at the
meetings 3 weeks ago.
The theory that
Srila Prabhupada was deliberately and fatally poisoned has been
propagated mainly on the strength of the words 'someone has poisoned
me', spoken by Srila Prabhupada during his final weeks in Vrindavan.
So important is this alleged revelation from Srila Prabhupada that
this emotive phrase has been used as the title for a book on the
entire subject. To use Srila Prabhupada's own words is a powerful
and convincing approach since every devotee knows the strongest
possible evidence are the words of the acharya. Such directly
revealed evidence is conclusive since it is beyond the four defects.
Even supposedly water-tight forensic evidence has to take second
place to the words of the acharya, since so called scientific
evidence will naturally fall prey to those four defects. Conversely if
it can be shown that Srila Prabhupada did not directly confirm the
fact that he was deliberately poisoned, then this will mean
depending on less reliable sources such as ordinary witnesses and
scientific analysis. These other less dependable sources might still
validate the theory that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, but that is
not the subject of this paper. The purpose of
this paper is to study the actual words of Srila Prabhupada only on
the subject of his poisoning. Naturally, we can only rely on the
actual words Srila Prabhupada spoke on this issue to determine
whether he himself believed that he was deliberately poisoned. Thus
the views and opinions of others who were in the room with Srila
Prabhupada are of no relevance to us. Neither do we need to consider
other subjects Srila Prabhupada discussed that were not directly to
do with the issue of his poisoning. We must stress
that this paper does not prove, nor even attempt to prove, that
Srila Prabhupada was not poisoned. Nor are we saying that the issue
should not be investigated. The GBC themselves felt the available
evidence was sufficient grounds on which to launch a detailed
investigation. We fully support such an investigation. Our only
point here is that we must deal with facts rather than feelings
brought on, quite understandably, by this highly charged subject.
Thus we shall carefully look at what Srila Prabhupada himself said,
rather than what feelings or suspicions his words might invoke in
devotees minds and hearts. Please note,
there are in fact only 4 separate exchanges where Srila Prabhupada
himself discusses the subject of his poisoning. The first 3 of these
take place at different points in the same conversation, on the 9th
of November, and the last exchange takes place the next day on the
10th November. 3 out of the 4 exchanges involve Srila Prabhupada speaking in Hindi and Bengali. For the relevant Hindi and Bengali translations we will use those supplied by His Grace Naveen Krishna prabhu in the book 'Someone Has Poisoned Me' . We will refer to each of these exchanges as Exchange 1, 2 etc., with the appropriate translation from the book given directly underneath the transliteration in Hindi or Bengali.
Thus exchange 1 does not yield any evidence from the lotus mouth of the acharya himself agreeing that he has been poisoned.
We have put
these exchanges together because Srila Prabhupada simply repeats to
Tamala Krishna in English what he has just told the Kaviraja in
Hindi. Here Srila Prabhupada clarifies the fact that the statement
by others regarding his poisoning was not even a direct statement
that he has been poisoned; but only that he showed the symptoms of
poisoning, and that that this was something which is written in a
book, and that Srila Prabhupada had himself read such things. Thus this
exchange, as well as yielding no evidence from the mouth of the
acharya himself agreeing that he has been poisoned, states that the
other sources are not even themselves stating that Srila Prabhupada
himself has been directly poisoned.
These 3
exchanges all take place on the same day.
Thus we still
have no evidence from the acharya himself, where he states that
someone has given him poison. Please note therefore that there has been a discussion and talk on the topic of Srila Prabhupada being poisoned by someone:
These were the
phrases that started the whole discussion off - Srila Prabhupada is
stating that someone else is saying that effectively
'someone has poisoned me'. This is the context to the final exchange that takes place the next day.
We have left
the translation of the first phrase blank because in the book
'Someone Has Poisoned Me' it is mis-translated; a fact admitted by
Naveen Krishna prabhu - the translator himself, who has stated that
the translation used is not his final translation but was only a
very first rough draft. The book translates the phrase:
As any Hindi
speaker will confirm, the phrase 'vahi bat' means only
'that same discussion/talk', and that is all. 'Vahi'
means 'that same', and 'bat' means 'discussion'
or 'talk/subject'. Further it can be noted that:
Just to have further confirmation, we were given the following translation from Dr. M. Kapoor, the Principal of Jalan High School, who has a Phd in Hindi:
Thus the
correct translation, both from the literal meanings of the words
used, and from the context of the discussion is -
'That same discussion'. Thus the correct translation is:
Thus when Srila
Prabhupada states 'someone has poisoned me', he is simply
identifying the discussion which has led to the 'mental
distress'. The talk on the previous day, as we have seen, was
indeed in reference to 'someone has poisoned me'. Thus the
phrase, 'someone has poisoned me', because it is prefaced
with 'that same discussion', is used simply to refer back to
the previous discussions in question. A previous discussion in which
someone else had spoken of Srila Prabhupada being poisoned, or more
accurately, displaying the symptoms of someone being poisoned.
In other words:
Thus though
Srila Prabhupada does speak the words - 'someone has poisoned me'
- he only states them to identify the series of talks, which
were to do with Srila Prabhupada being poisoned - but in which Srila
Prabhupada himself never states that someone has poisoned him. The
removal of the words 'I said' completely changes the
meaning of the phrase 'that someone has
poisoned me': (1) The same
thing, I said .... That someone has poisoned me. (2) That
same discussion ... That someone has poisoned me. In case (1) due to the presence of 'I said', the word 'that' links the phrase 'someone has poisoned me' to 'I said'. This makes it appear that the phrase 'someone has poisoned me' was actually a statement from Srila Prabhupada himself. In case (2) by
removing the words 'I said', we have a completely different
meaning. The linking word 'that' now simply links 'someone
has poisoned me' directly to 'that same discussion'. This
renders the phrase 'someone has poisoned me' into being
simply the 'same discussion' referred to - where the idea of
Srila Prabhupada being poisoned (or more accurately displaying
symptoms of being poisoned) is actually stated by someone else, an
idea which Srila Prabhupada does not confirm, but only says is
'possible'.
Thus this
exchange does not yield any evidence from Srila Prabhupada agreeing
that he had been poisoned. He merely confirms that the previous
discussions, which themselves do not yield this evidence either,
were the cause of his 'mental distress'. (We put the phrase 'mental
distress' in inverted commas, because the term was not used by Srila
Prabhupada himself). To conclude anymore than this - such as the
fact that Srila Prabhupada had 'mental distress' proves that he must
have thought he was poisoned - is speculation of the highest order
since it involves trying to directly understand the mind of the
Acharya. We may have grounds to investigate further, but that is all
- we do not have any evidence that Srila Prabhupada agreed he was
being poisoned.
Please note that there is an interesting parallel here with the May 28th 1977 'appt tape'. Just as in the 'appt tape' Srila Prabhupada also speaks the words 'grand-disciple', and 'disciple of my disciple', the meanings of these words can only be understood by looking at the words next to them, such as 'when I order'. Similarly in this case, the phrase 'someone has poisoned me', has to be understood by examining the prefacing phrase. Supposing the words preceding 'someone has poisoned me' were 'I don't think that...'. In such a case it would be folly to insist that we only take the latter part of the sentence into account. In effect this is almost what has happened with the poison theory book due to the misleading mistranslation. If it is acceptable and proper to take an isolated phrase without considering its context, then the phrase 'grand-disciple' (on the May 28th tape) alone is just as much evidence of Gurus being appointed as the words 'someone has poisoned me' is evidence that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned. Or conversely, if the GBC continue to insist as they do that the words 'grand-disciple' and 'disciple of my disciple' are evidence that Srila Prabhupada appointed gurus, then they must equally accept that Srila Prabhupada is directly stating someone had poisoned him. And if Srila Prabhupada is stating that, then there is no need for the GBC to conduct an investigation into whether or not Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, since it is an open and shut case - since the words of the acharya are infallible. If Srila Prabhupada states that he was poisoned, then he was. The GBC must simply hunt down the culprits. We can see
therefore how the GBC, after 20 years of cheating and
mis-interpreting the words of Srila Prabhupada, have now been
trapped by their own deceitful technique of only taking half of what
Srila Prabhupada says. Such cheating, it seems, is coming back to
haunt them. And for this we must thank those who have pushed the
whole poison issue, because it has highlighted how, if the GBC are
to be consistent with the way in which they use Srila Prabhupada's
words, they must accept either that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned,
or drop perpetuating the doctrine that Srila Prabhupada authorised
diksa gurus on the 'appt tape'. To ignore prefacing words is just
blatant cheating, and will not convince anyone who is a little
intelligent and unbiased.
One final nail
in the coffin of the idea that Srila Prabhupada is himself revealing
that he is being poisoned is found in the following. After the last
exchange Adri Dharan das, who was present at the discussion, asked
the Kaviraja, whom Srila Prabhupada was supposedly revealing all
this to, what Srila Prabhupada had been referring to when he spoke
of poison. Even though in the previous conversation the Kaviraja
immediately jumps to the conclusion that Srila Prabhupada was
speaking of some malicious poisoning, he later reveals to Adri
Dharan that Srila Prabhupada was actually only referring to the
effects of poison having been administered via bad medicine. This testimony would be consistent with a conversation that was held just 12 days before the above exchanges. In this Bhakti Caru Swami gives the following diagnosis from the doctors:
It seems from
this that:
This may
explain why 12 days later Srila Prabhupada reported how a 3rd party
had noticed that Srila Prabhupada was showing the symptoms of
someone who had been poisoned. However without
further solid evidence we cannot reach a conclusion, and therefore
we would strongly urge the investigators to translate the Hindi
conversations in the above conversation, to see if they provide
extra clarification.
Also from the above analysis of Srila Prabhupada's actual words, we have disproved two other notions that have been erroneously propagated. That Srila Prabhupada was hesitant to reveal the truth because he was afraid of his disciples, or that he only revealed the truth in Hindi or Bengali. Analysis of the exchanges has shown that:
In this connection it should also be noted that the following conversation is used erroneously by some to support the notion that Srila Prabhupada feared being poisoned by his closest disciples:
Please note
Srila Prabhupada is agreeing that outsiders and guests should be
prevented from cooking for him - not his closest disciples: Since Tamala
Krishna clearly mentions only stopping 'anyone else' from
being allowed to cook, and clearly speaks of the cooking being done
only by 'their own men'. It is very
significant to note that yet again we have a mis-leading transcript.
In the book 'Someone Has Poisoned Me', Tamala is actually
shown as saying 'That's why actually we cannot allow anyone to cook
for you' -i.e. the word 'else' is missing. By leaving out the
word 'else', the book 'someone has poisoned me' has
completely changed the true meaning - which is that only others
outside of the disciples who were already cooking for Srila
Prabhupada should be prevented from cooking for Srila Prabhupada
- to everyone should be prevented from cooking for Srila
Prabhupada. Anyone who listens to the tape in question will
clearly hear the word 'else' being spoken by Tamala Krishna
Maharaja, and indeed "anybody else" is the transcript given
by the Bhaktivedanta Archives on the Srila Prabhupada Veda Base
(folio).
As stated at
the outset of this paper, Srila Prabhupada's words have currently
been used as the main evidence to push the poisoning theory. Other
evidence such as the presence of arsenic in Srila Prabhupada's hair,
witnesses etc., has been mooted, but not yet produced. Until it is
we have no actual evidence on which to comment. The so called
'whispers' can only be used as supporting evidence once poisoning
has itself been proven. Thus they have no role to play yet. (It is
also worth noting that in any case the poison proponents themselves
admit that the forensic tests on the whispers have a margin of error
of up to 20%. Please note that in standard scientific tests that can
be put forward as any sort of proof, such as DNA testing, the margin
of error is usually as low as 0.0001%, or one chance in a million).
On the
currently available evidence:
Therefore there
is no evidence from the infallible source of the acarya that he was
being deliberately poisoned. Thus the answer to the title of this
paper has to be 'no'.
We do not hold
the author of the book 'someone has poisoned me' responsible
for deliberately perpetrating falsehood, even though the mis-translation
reported makes a significant difference to the strength of the case
for deliberate poisoning,. The author appears to have genuinely
relied on the translation work of others, even though it was made
clear to him that the translation provided to him was not to be
taken as accurate. All we would say is that the title of his book
should have been 'It's Possible', for these are the only
words Srila Prabhupada himself offers on the subject of his
poisoning. Also the GBC
themselves have mis-translated the phrase in exactly the same way.
In the case of the GBC this is just another example of the
intellectual sloppiness that is the hallmark of their work, as
anyone who has read their position papers on the Guru issue will
know. It is remarkable, but not surprising, that even when
desperately trying to defend the reputations of some of their most
senior supporters they should display such poor attention to detail.
For it is precisely such poor attention to detail - adding an extra
word here and there, and minimising other words - that has led them
to perpetrate the Guru hoax in ISKCON for so long. Thus in
essence, unless some other evidence has yet to be revealed, there is
no case on the present available evidence. As already mentioned, in
this regard it may be instructive to translate all the Hindi and
Bengali conversations which are on the tapes in the archives, to see
if there is any evidence to support the poisoning theory. Over 20 years
ago we made a huge mistake by accepting, without analysis and
supporting evidence, the alleged purport of some discussion that
took place on a supposed 'appointment tape'. This led to the
disastrous Guru system that has now brought ISKCON practically to
its knees. Let us not make a similar mistake, by again accepting
some discussion and whispers on a tape, without sufficient analysis
and evidence. Thank you for taking the time to read this newsletter, and please keep your letters, and e-mail addresses of other devotees who should be added to our list, flowing in. A hard copy of our main position paper 'The Final Order' is available on request. If you would
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